Ander, 12:03, martedì 2 febbraio 2010: > Ad esempio, il sergente istruttore di FMJ ... chiaramente > delle macchiette esagerate, Da un commento su imdb: "Author: brujay-1 from Northern Mariana Islands Though I've read only a couple of dozen of the nearly 500 comments on this film, I didn't see any from ex-Marines who'd had the Parris Island experience. I went through PI in 1957. The time period in the picture would have been about 1967, since the in-country sequence includes the '68 Tet Offensive. Litt .
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Oggetto:  Re: Valzer con Bashir
Da:  allebombedelcanon(at)bim.bum.bam (Ciabattone)
Gruppi:  it.cultura.storia.militare
Organizzazione:  ComputerVille
Data:  Feb 02 2010 19:23:13


Ander, 12:03, marted́ 2 febbraio 2010:

> Ad esempio, il sergente istruttore di FMJ ... chiaramente
> delle macchiette esagerate,


Da un commento su imdb:

"Author: brujay-1 from Northern Mariana Islands

Though I've read only a couple of dozen of the nearly 500
comments on this film, I didn't see any from ex-Marines who'd
had the Parris Island experience. I went through PI in 1957.
The time period in the picture would have been about 1967,
since the in-country sequence includes the '68 Tet Offensive.
Little had changed in those 10 years except the switch from M1s
to M16s.

For the most part Kubrick got Parris Island right on the money.
And why shouldn't he have, since his screen DI, Lee Ermey was
in fact a real DI before he started acting (he played another
DI in "The Boys of Company C," an earlier and lesser Vietnam
flick)? He had a built- in technical adviser. The screams and
insults and profanity and physical punishment were all part of
the DIs armamentarium. When you're facing up to 75 young
strangers you need to immediately establish absolute authority
and hang on to it for 13 weeks. Furthermore, you want to break
the breakable as soon as you can. My platoon had its Private
Pyles and though none ended up as he does in "Full Metal
Jacket," I remember that they simply disappeared from our
ranks, never to be heard from again. Nothing Ermey as Sgt.
Hartman does is exaggerated.

Kubrick, however, does exaggerate. Speaking of Pyle's ending,
it's almost impossible for me to imagine that a recruit could
manage to sneak a clip of live rounds away from the rifle
range. Every shooter at the range has his own rifle coach, and
every single round is very carefully accounted for. Kubrick
started the killing one scene too early.

I've read that DIs nowadays are forbidden to use the
time-honored f-word, and are not allowed to lay hands on
recruits. I don't know if that's good or bad for training (I
had my face slapped hard my first day of boot camp and that was
just for openers), but then all of us old-timers like to brag
about how tough it useta be!

A final note: It's interesting to compare "Full Metal Jacket" to
another attempt at a portrayal of Parris Island, Jack
Webb's "The DI," made around '55 or '56. Webb tries for
authenticity, but as I was to learn a year or so later, his PI
was a boy scout camp. "


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